[ModLib] Joyce, Dubliners "defintive text" 1969

Gordon Barrick Neavill neavill at wayne.edu
Sun Feb 13 18:40:02 EST 2011

Thanks very much to all who responded. Your information is VERY helpful -- and timely, since I want to submit my bibliography entries for titles first published in 1925 and 1926 tomorrow. Based on Darrell's information I'm inclined to suspect that the smaller format appeared *after* the taller. If so, it's the only example I'm aware of. I have a copy of the 7-1/2" format, and the jacket is identical to Darrell's EXCEPT mine doesn't have the ISBN. I believe ISBNs were introduced in 1972. The copy that Alan Oestreich used to have lacked a jacket but was bound in coarse black cloth that was used on some of the last  printings before ML titles were discontinued in the  1970s. I have no idea why this late or last printiung  would have  reverted to the smaller format, but RH wasn't paying much attention to the Modern Library at that period. 

Thanks again. 


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From: "Darrell Johnson" <zebradlj at yahoo.com> 
To: "For collectors of Modern Library books" <modlib at thuban.owu.edu> 
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:09:39 PM 
Subject: Re: [ModLib] Joyce, Dubliners "defintive text" 1969 

If I were to merely guess, then since they were beginning to introdue the taller format that year, I suspect the regular size came first. 
But since we don't want to merely guess, here is a fuller description of my book and jacket: 
Book: Toledano style 13; the front free end paper facing the front paste-down has a very large reddish-puple "H" stamped on it, suggesting it is a remainder;  the half-title page offers to send the illustrated list if requested; on the reverse of the title page the paragraph under the FMLE statement includes the library of congress # 25-23228; the text ends on 224 and there is a single, blank free end-paper (i.e., nothing follows the text0. 
Jacket: $2.95 price on the front flap (no indications of ever being tagged over); "ML124" directly under the price; the inside of the jacket is, of course, blank; the back cover has "Classics of Literature" and lists G58, G15, G36, G3, G1, G23, 186, 130, 110, 185, 28, 177, 40, 244, G97; G73, 388; 318, 119,261, 100, 21, 125, and REMEMBERANCE OF THINGS PAAST (7volumes), in that order; at the bottom the Box 41 ... address for requesting a catalogue is offered; and in the lower right corner 394-60124-6 (the ISBN). 
Since G73: THE COLLECTED TALES & PLAYS OF NIKOLAI GOGOL, is a 1969 title it might give a clue to precedence if the taller format copy has a slightly different list under this heading. 

--- On Sun, 2/13/11, Scot Kamins <kamins at modernlib.com> wrote: 

From: Scot Kamins <kamins at modernlib.com> 
Subject: Re: [ModLib] Joyce, Dubliners "defintive text" 1969 
To: "For collectors of Modern Library books" <modlib at thuban.owu.edu> 
Date: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 2:25 PM 

So now the question is which size preceded which as the "true" first (as such)? 

On Feb 13, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Darrell Johnson wrote: 

My copy is the standard 7 1/4" size. 
First Modern Library Edition, 1969, with corrected text by 
         Robert Scholes in consultation with Richard Ellman 
                Copyright 1967 by the estate of James Joyce 

--- On Sun, 2/13/11, Gordon Barrick Neavill < neavill at wayne.edu > wrote: 


I'm trying to confirm that the ML edition of Joyce's Dubliners (#124) with the "definitive text" (1969) exists in the standard 7-1/4" format as well as the taller 7-1/2" format that was introduced in 1969. This is the one with the black jacket with lettering in light purple and white and a green shamrock. It says "definitive text" on the jacket and "corrected text" on the verso of the title page. I'm convinced that I've seen it in the 7-1/4" format, but Alan Oestreich, who I think once had a jacketless copy, has disposed of it. 

Thanks for your help! 


Scot Kamins 
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