More First Info

Mon Aug 1 07:54:46 EDT 2005

O'Neill's Ah, Wilderness! was published in spring 1964.  The
"k" jacket is the first jacket; "l" was introduced fall 1965.

An Outline of Psychoanalysis, rev. ed., was published in
spring 1955.  The first jacket lists 372 titles.


---- Original message ----
>Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 20:33:30 -0500
>From: <modlib at>  
>Subject: More First Info  
>To: <modlib at>
>I agree that there is more information that should be
provided for 'firsts not stated as such'.  For example,
O'Neill/Ah, Wilderness! 342.1; I believe the Dogeared
indication is binding 11, and this all that is provided. 
However, I have two copies of this with binding 11.  One copy
is a first (I think) with a Spring 1964 book list and a 'k'
jacket.  The other has a Spring 1965 book list and an 'l' jacket.
>So in some cases, when a book list is present (and accurate,
remember Barry said these were not updated after 1967 or so),
we should be able to identify the season/year.  Also we should
be able to provide the jacket type of the first.
>Second: I had made a proposal to determine and add the DJ1st
numbers for the 'new' editions of existing titles.  For
example, 66.2 does not have a DJ1st, but it has a price
indicator.  I believe the number should be 374.  There are a
bunch of these to add.  The proposal was to add these to the
soon to be active maybe ML Collector site, but the Dogeared
page concerning updates to the guide seems like the right
place.  Anyone interested this time around?
>Anyone have a 66.2 with an earlier number than 374?
>> From: sandjtilley at
>> Date: 2005/07/31 Sun PM 07:41:06 CDT
>> To: modlib at,  modlib at
>> CC: Scot Kamins <kamins at>
>> Scot: It would seem that the Dogeared page could do a real
service in helping to answer some of the questions related to
the really difficult indica of firsts on some of the issues
that can only be identified by the pages in the back of the
book (dating key) and the back of the dust jacket. For
example, the Toledano guide is not clear in listing the jacket
ie. Gh along side of an issue.Some of these books are really
difficult to determine if they are firsts and then one must
determine if the jacket is a first state. Even some stated
firsts leave me questioning if the dust jacket is a first or
not, for example, Parodies G-93. What is the correct dust
jacket for a first? Could not Dogeared show this for us? While
the dating key is useful for the book, there is no easy way on
some of these issues to really nail down the first jacket. Can
Dogeared help here? Dogeared has done so much to advance the
knowlege in this hobby, and it is highly appreciated.
Gordon B. Neavill
Associate Professor
Library and Information Science Program
Wayne State University
Detroit, MI 48202
aa3401 at 

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